MOVIE MOVIE Returns ... In 4-D!

 

Last time I “officially” talked to Derek Davidson in 2020 (we talk unofficially, mostly about movies, like all the damn time!), it was amid a frenzy of creative activity for the New York City musician with his long-running band The Electric Mess. But that group sadly broke up in 2022, and Derek has started anew with MOVIE MOVIE, a cinematically charged garage pop supergroup featuring members of The Above (Frank Caira, vocals and guitar) and Twin Guns (Andrea Sicco, lead vocals and guitar), as well as Davidson (bass and keyboards) and his Electric Mess bandmate Alan J. Camlet (drums and percussion). MOVIE MOVIE’s second full-length, the fantastic and varied In 4-D! is out digitally and on CD through Bandcamp. Topsy-Turvy will release it on vinyl in late September or early October.

I recently chatted with Derek about his new group, new album, and more:

When I last interviewed you, you were still with The Electric Mess. Can you tell me about the end of that band and how MOVIE MOVIE came together? I wouldn’t go so far as to say we were a Covid casualty, because after about 15 years, we might have hit the point where it was time to start doing other things, but right when the pandemic started our fifth record had come out and a Spain/France tour booked in May of 2020 canceled, and no local shows for a while, and we just never regained momentum after that. It was probably the catalyst we needed to officially make the split. But by the same turn, with all that down time I was able to write new songs and make demos and didn't want to wait around to see if the Mess would ever regroup. I wanted to hit the studio to record our debut EP, so the bands did overlap for a bit. In fact, MOVIE MOVIE's debut show was the Electric Mess’s second to last show.

Coming from the Electric Mess, what did you have in mind for MOVIE MOVIE? In a pretty short time, you guys have put out two albums and an EP. Can you keep up this pace? Ha! Well, as I said, with so much downtime in 2020, I was having a creative burst, writing new songs, but also I had a bunch of songs on tap that were slated to be Electric Mess songs once we came back. Some we actually worked on once or twice, others we never got to try. A couple of them turned up on the Now Playing EP, and about four of them are on the new record, In 4-D! Our first LP Storyboards was all new songs since I was so inspired how the EP went. I thought those fit the best. When we recorded them, The Electric Mess still hadn’t called it a day, so for the new one I had a small backlog I was able to tap into. Andrea contributed two songs to Storyboards, some unused Twin Gun ideas he gave me to choose from.

So many good songs on the new album (“You Can’t Hide from the Lies,” “Damaged Goods,” “Anywhere But Here” “I Want You Back (Again)” and others are early favorites). How does the songwriting process work for MOVIE MOVIE? Creatively, all the songs for this band I make very detailed demos going in before I present them to the band. Andrea studies them, comes up with his ideas, guitar-wise and vocally what he feels comfortable with, Alan gets his drums parts, and Frank runs some background vocal suggestions by me, which are usually right on the money. I consider him our not-so-secret weapon, since the vocals and harmonies in this band are the most important part to me. We rehearse a couple times and then just hit the studio to record. There’s no weeks of rehearsals or arrangement meetings or playing songs endlessly live when you're sick and tired of them when you'll finally do record. This keeps everything fresh. “You Can't Hide From the Lies” was definitely one that developed after we recorded the basic tracks, initially I thought it would be like a ‘70s Gordon Lightfoot type song, but turned into a 1980s prom song! Andrea added multiple guitar parts, and I added lots of keys and strings, so that one really needed to develop and be fleshed out, though the basics were all there. That one vocally is my favorite on the record, Frank and Alan on backups and harmonies really shine. “Damaged Goods,” on the other hand, the basic track was done in literally one take, with overdubs later. But what you hear is us just banging it out. That was an Electric Mess leftover.

What movie references have you cleverly hidden from me in the songs? Haha, I have to admit, I can’t think of any direct movie references or inspirations. “Lone Warrior,” from our last album, was inspired by Paris, Texas, and “Born to Win,” obviously the title inspired by a classic, but at the moment I can’t think of any Easter eggs or anything cryptic. If it comes to me, I'll let you know! However, the structure is supposed to be a flashback, from the 1960s through modern day, covering garage, psychedelic rock, glam, into New Romantic, post-punk, ending on arena rock. The original title was Flashbacks, but I thought too much like Storyboards in the one-word title, so In 4-D! It keeps it in the movie realm and especially the cover by Darren Merinuk.

Have you had any opportunities to play the songs live? We played one show recently, our first of the year, and we played all new songs, 7 of 10 from In-4D! It was a bit of a challenge, since as I said all the songs are basically studio creations to start, and then we need to actually learn how to play them live. This record has a lot of bells and whistles, not literally, but playing some of them live takes some adjustment, particularly “You Can’t Hide from the Lies,” which is rather lush.

You’ve maintained your relationship with Soundflat beginning with the Electric Mess and are one of the few American bands on the Cologne, Germany-based label. What is that relationship like? Soundflat is great, and Marco Traxel, the head of the label, is my rock ‘n’ roll guardian angel! He put out four Electric Mess records, and our last LP and now this one. Of course, MOVIE MOVIE is on their subsidiary called Tospy-Turvy, which are bands and records he likes that aren’t the typical 1960s garage style Soundflat favors. It’s nice being out in Europe, since we have toured in Spain already in November 2023, and plan to go back in spring 2025. Our EP came out on Ghost Highway/KOTJ, so it’s great having a base there. Record labels aren’t a charity, so it’s good to know our record sold well enough for Topsy-Turvy to do our new one.